Compassionate Dairy? Nah.
February 10, 2010
You all know I’m a vegetarian for environmental reasons, but you’ve probably figured out I’m also all for animal rights and compassion. Just search my blog under the tag ‘veg*nism’. To be fair, I don’t necessarily believe this means having one strict, stringent set of rules that apply universally to all. I’m not that kind of thinker in any arena of my life. For example, I believe you could eat a compassionate diet that included chicken eggs, if the chickens lived as your lovely little pets and the eggs were a by-product. However, I don’t think it’s possible to compassionately eat eggs if they were produced in a battery run.
I’ve been an aspiring vegan for ages – I use soy milk rather than dairy, but haven’t kicked most of the other dairy products yet. In fact, I feel I’ve been slipping. I used to be stringently anti-(dairy)yoghurt and over the last few months it has crept back into my diet after years without it. I can’t even claim that it happened without my knowing it, because I did know it, and I deliberately chose to not think about it. I have real trouble seeing a time for me without dairy cheese and I think I just got to a point where I was like… ‘Why bother? I’m not a real vegan anyway.’ I kinda gave up for a bit.
Well, that’s just slack and not cool and all ‘head in the sand’ style.
I guess the yoghurt thing has been lurking in my mind after all though, because as part of my dreaming on about living on an eco-friendly property with my strawbale house and rescue animals, I started to wonder about keeping a cow or two. I knew there’d be egg-laying chickens (dunno if I’d eat the eggs cos I don’t really like eggs anymore, but regardless), and I started wondering if it would be possible to eat compassionate dairy. Unlike eggs, milk production is stimulated by pregnancy, but I wondered if it would be possible for a cow to have a baby once a year, and to rear it naturally at the same time as me taking just a wee bit of milk for my own devices. I wouldn’t even use it to drink – just for stuff like cheese – so I really would need such a tiny bit. After some research I discovered this was possible, although very few people do it as it’s a bit of a chore to get the milk with a frisky calf around and you end up with less milk.
I started to wonder what would happen to the cows though. I’m not into artificial breeding – all my pets are desexed, there are enough unwanted animals in the world – so it seemed I would be artificially increasing the herd. I mean, the alternative is to kill them off and I wasn’t thinking of doing that. Er, no. Vegetarian herd-culler, I think not. I thought maybe each cow could have just one baby so really all they did was replace themselves, like Zero Population Growth (ZPG), which I’ve talked about before in human terms. I figured male calves would just luck out and get to hang around getting fat and happy, and the females would have one baby each. If a boy calf was born then lucky for his mum, she’d get to have a second one after all.
Then I started to think that I must be a bit naive, and all this seemed like hard work and I knew I was really not grasping all the complexities. Plus the Internet seemed so adamant you should separate the cow and calf ASAP for the calf’s protection (immunity etc). This didn’t seem so natural to me. Then there was the question of whether they could live on grass alone or if they need supplementary food (ultimately – grass is possible, if there is enough of it year round). And how to milk them. Are those milking machines really humane?
So I kept reading.
Then I came across Edgar’s Mission, and a little story by Shirley the calf. Now I think I’m just going to have to bite the bullet and give up milk entirely.
Go have a read, and take your tissues. Go have a read of Sadie’s story too, if you are a glutton for punishment.
I know it’s sentimental, and from a human perspective and probably cows don’t think that way really cos they’re cows and don’t have the kind of higher cognitive functions we humans do – but another thing I learned in my research tonight (and on other nights) is that they do have feelings and they do think. Maybe not like us, but they do. Those baby cows miss their mummies and the mummies miss them. Separating them buggers up their health, they don’t socialise quite right, the boys are unceremoniously killed, the girls raised as lactation machines and ultimately, when it comes right down to it, it’s mean!
So. My plan is to give it all up, one thing at a time down the list below. I know I’ve tried to do this before, ages ago, but I didn’t have a list, and unlike giving up meat and eggs which I wasn’t that big on in the first place, getting past milk and yoghurt were so daunting that I kinda burned out before I got anywhere else. This time, I’ve already started, so it will be easier I hope. There’s a bit of me that wonders ‘why bother, not many other people are doing this, what difference will it make?’, but I’ve unexpectedly read about the story of the old man with the starfish (or little girl, depending on the version) about five times in relation to this very decision tonight, so maybe the compassionate zen God of the universe is trying to tell me something. Besides, that never stopped me making a stand before. Every little bit counts, right?
Most items have replacements, although lots of those things I eat more of now that I will of the replacements, cos I just don’t like the substitutes as much (such as ice-cream – soy icecream just doesn’t really do it for me), or eating that much soy isn’t good for anyone. The first two should be easy as I’ve mostly done them, and the third I just have to remember. Plus, for the fourth, I was eating too much ice-cream so I already gave it up for the month… now I just need to keep going.
- Milk = non-dairy milk (eg: soy, oat, chickpea or almond, as rice milk isn’t good for me and hemp milk is NASTY – sorry hemp-lovers)
- Sour Cream = avocado, guacamole etc
- Yoghurt = non-dairy yoghurt (eg: soy)
- Ice-cream = non-dairy ice-cream (eg: soy, coconut etc, and sorbets like Weis yum yum yum)
- Butter = non-dairy margarine, oil
- Custard = non-dairy custard (eg: homemade soy)
- Cream = some soy substitute for cooking, otherwise probably nothing
- Chocolate = non-dairy chocolate (eg: dark chocolate, soy chocolate etc)
- Cheese = depends on the type of cheese (eg: tofu for paneer, tofutti better than cream cheese for cream cheese, no idea what for haloumi, ricotta or feta, maybe I’ll try some of the Uncheese Cookbook attempts for melty cheese cos I dislike all the commercial fake cheeses).
Cheese is definitely going to be the tough one. Like, real tough. I eat cheese in a lot of meals, and Yankee Elv loves it and probably won’t want to give it up (which is entirely her choice, of course – no pressure!!). All the rest I’ve lived without for certain periods in my life before, but cheese has always been a constant friend. However… I’m thinking of Shirley and Sadie and all the other cows like them. It’s time to bite the bullet and make a real commitment.
Interestingly enough, this hasn’t solved my question about whether it’s possible to consume compassionate dairy. Maybe it will be something I look into again one day. However, maybe when the time comes that it would be feasible for me to do that, I won’t be interested in eating dairy anymore anyway. After all, regardless of compassionate reasons, not consuming dairy is better for the environment and my health too.

Edgar Alan Pig (the first rescue and namesake of Edgar's Mission) with a little lambie friend, enjoying the sunshine together.
Edgar’s Mission is a farm animal sanctuary in Victoria. I wish it was closer so I could go there and have a look myself! Next time I’m in Victoria with access to a car, I’ll be there, for sure. I’m wildly envious of the owner, Pam, and would love to know how she manages to live on, run and fund the place. The idea of doing something similar is not unfamiliar to me – hence the thoughts about my eco-friendly rescue farm that started this whole thing off. I’ve become a Facebook fan. Go check out the Facebook page, and especially the photos in the Around the Farm album; some are just beautiful. The photos in this post are taken from the page.
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Eco Friendly | February 11, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Finally, it is very easy to eat vegetarian in Israel ( products, and are not vegan.). Eco Friendly
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Aussie Elv | February 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm
That’s great that it’s easy to eat veg in Israel – are there lots of vege products available? What about vegan products?
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Elisa Camahort Page | February 28, 2010 at 2:58 am
For years as a vegetarian giving up cheese was the thing that kept me from going vegan, which I philosophically believed in the whole time.
BUt two things happened once I went vegan for good in September 06:
1. I discovered that, like anything else, once you stop eating something for a substantial period of time, you really do stop craving it. After about 2 or 3 months I really didn’t think about cheese at all. If I’m at a party or something it still looks good to me, but I don’t miss it on any kind of regular basis.
2. Substitutes have gotten a lot better since 1989 when I first went vegetarian and tried to go vegan. A vegan cheese you can just eat on a cracker is still an impossible dream, but as you mention above, there are many other dairy substitutes that works well. Try Tofutti Better Than Sour Cream too
Also, vegan parmesan cheese substitutes are pretty good for sprinkling on pasta.
Finally, I would recommend you check out nutritional yeast if you are not cooking with it already. I love it on just about anything…it adds a savory (some say cheesy, but I just say savory) rich flavor, and is great for making gravies.
Good luck!
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Aussie Elv | February 28, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Thanks so much for your well-considered comment! I’ve also philosophically believed in veganism for ages – cheese has definitely been my downfall. I’m really proud of myself for having not eaten it now for 11 days. It’s like kicking an addiction!
I agree – once you stop eating something for a while, you do stop craving it. I experienced that with dairy milk and yoghurt (although the cravings were never as strong as they are for cheese), and I think that made it easier for me to give up cheese this time – I knew it would get better.
I remember trying a cheese substitute about 6 years ago and it was dreadful. A few I tried when I was in the USA about 4 years ago were better, but they’re not available in Australia. I found one the other day that was good, but after I’d eaten it the first time, I realised it had casein in it. Darn! Now I figure I’ll just try making my own. I actually haven’t eaten sour cream for about 2 years now, so I’m good with that.
I bought some nutritional yeast today (took me ages to realise this was the ‘nooch’ everyone was talking about in various forums and communities – I had to think with an American accent to get it). It was hard finding it – most places just had the powder. I tried it once ages ago and it was feral, but I’m going to give it a better go this time around.
How do you manage eating at functions where the food is catered? Even when I tick ‘vegetarian/vegan’ at work events, there’s usually just one or two vegetarian things and one vegan item. Of course, everyone else eats them as well so I get maybe one of each (if I’m lucky, I don’t have to tell six different wait staff that fish are not a vegetable.) Do you just kinda… starve?
Thanks for your support and advice!
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Elisa Camahort Page | March 1, 2010 at 2:37 am
Catered functions are hard. My *best* experiences have been when I call the venue before even showing up and let them know I’ll be there. (This on top of letting the event organizer know too)
But I often forget or run out of time to do that.
So my second piece of advice is always ask. Ask your waiter, and if they look at you blankly, as if you can talk to the head of waitstaff.
Generally speaking venues actually do want you to be taken care of
My third piece of advice, sadly, is to eat a bit before to make sure you don’t starve
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Aussie Elv | March 1, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Hmm… the first could be a challenge – telling our community lead won’t do much, we’d have to talk to the caterers and I have no idea who they are.
The second I sort of do… I ask the waiter, then ask the next one and the next one… lol. I guess they must have a head of waitstaff, they never seem to, but there must be someone!
The third… yeah. That was pretty much what I was thinking. Cos I figure if I felt a bit neglected as a vegetarian, cutting out cheese is basically going to triple that.
That being said, I did have some fantastic roasted vege sandwiches with caramelised onion (vegan) at the last event, which were an incredible surprise. I think the vego population is growing, so they’re getting better at catering for us. I organised a small work event last week and 50% of the attendees were vego. I was rather pleased!
Thanks!
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Brooke | August 3, 2010 at 11:24 pm
I’ve been having this argument (re compassion foods) with myself. I adopted some bantam chickens that free-range around my huge backyard (as well as hopping over in my neighbours who thankfully absolutely ADORE them!) and soon they’ll be laying eggs. I think they have a happy, healthy life and my son loves them, I can just imagine the excitement on his face when he sees their first eggs! But I’m feeling ethically challenged on the subject!! For starters, it’s pretty disgusting that we eat chicken periods (sorry to be crass but as a new vegan I have to call them that to keep from craving them.) And apparently chickens keep laying because we keep stealing their eggs! Isn’t that awful
I cried my eyes out reading the stories from Edgar’s mission, thank you so much for posting the links, it has reaffirmed my decision to be vegan.
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Aussie Elv | August 12, 2010 at 8:10 pm
I can’t wait til I can get some chooks… sometimes I trek through the jungle at the back of my yard and look over the fence at my neighbour’s chickens. They looks so cute!
I haven’t read up extensively on why chickens lay unfertilised eggs, so I can’t give you much advice on the ethics of eating them. Apparently the chooks will eat the eggs if you don’t collect them, so that suggests that they do lay even if you don’t remove the eggs… but I’m not sure.
I think that when the time comes that I have my own chooks, we will probably eat their eggs. I say we, but I really mean Yankee Elv and Mr Teeny-bop, because I don’t like eggs (I ate waaaaaaay too many as a kid, so I’m kind of put off by them now). I figure they eat eggs anyway, so if they’re going to eat them, it’s better that they come from our own chooks. Also, they don’t eat many eggs (maybe half a dozen per month, between them) so it’s not like we’ll be collecting many eggs anyway. I figured we’d leave the rest and the chooks could eat them.
I guess I haven’t looked into this further because the issue isn’t a pressing one for me, but I’d be interested to know if you find out anything more about whether the chickens would stop laying if we stopped removing their eggs. If I had my own chooks, it’s possible I may get requests for fresh eggs from family members. Again, I think it’s better to get them from my chooks than random battery hens… but still – is it healthy?
So I guess ultimately… thanks for raising the point, and I hope you’ll share if you learn more. I sure will!
I’m glad you liked the stories from Edgar’s Mission.. I love their site. Some new pics just got posted on their Facebook page, you should check them out!